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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:38 pm    Post subject: Fantasy Pro Tuition Reply with quote

Okay imagine you had the opportunity to be taught some poker by a professional poker player, which poker player would that be and why?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Daniel Negreanu, no question. He's smart, agressive, confident, and skilled in all forms of poker ... and most important of all, he's Canadian. Plus he's working with Stacked which I hear is supposed to be a solid game with great AI. Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hold on a minute, this seems like a very thinly veiled plug Laughing

i only wished Stacked included Phil Hellmuth so I could watch him roll about the floor squealing when he suffered a "bad beat"

So many great players to consider but I think Devilfish would be the chap.
First I would want someone with a track-record.

A tonnage of experience in no-limit, when he is on top of his game he is totally dominating, his card sense is incredible.

Gus Hansen would pretty much be at the bottom of the list but if he is still about in 20 years time playing the same style then maybe I'll reconsider.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 10:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Fantasy Pro Tuition Reply with quote

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Okay imagine you had the opportunity to be taught some poker by a professional poker player, which poker player would that be and why?


The best mentor would have to match your own approach to the game, and way of thinking.

For Limit, I'd choose the person with the most knowledge about the game. But if I wasn't available to teach me, then maybe Barry Greenstein, or Chip Reese.

For No Limit, maybe Chris Ferguson. He could also teach me how to slice a banana with a thrown playing card. That'd be cool.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 2:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Fantasy Pro Tuition Reply with quote

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But if I wasn't available to teach me, then maybe Barry Greenstein, or Chip Reese.

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The devs hi-jacking the thread to promote Stacked is one thing but this has gone too far now Laughing

You obviously have a mighty brain Darse, I listened to Barry explaining Limit on the TV a few weeks ago. By the time he had finished I was beginning to wonder if I understood how to post the blinds.

What he did say was that playing Limit had taken the edge off his hand reading skills as essentially Limit is a game of showdown where the pot was usually giving you odds to call that final bet on the river almost regardless.

Now while I accept his card reading skills must be better than mine I have found the opposite to be the case.
Given part of the battle is saving a bet when you are losing and gaining one when ahead my card reading skills have improved as there is a finer edge to things.

In no-limit when someone shoves in a huge bet it tends to simply be a matter of "is MY hand strong enough to call/raise this bet" not "is the villians hand strong enough to have made the bet".

That said my no-limit game is not exactly tearing up the landscape.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 10:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Fantasy Pro Tuition Reply with quote

Anonymous wrote:
Okay imagine you had the opportunity to be taught some poker by a professional poker player, which poker player would that be and why?


Easy one, if you allow me to include former professional players. I'd want Darse to help me with 6-max limit hold'em.

Why Darse?

1. I've read many of his RGP posts in the google's RGP archive, and I've found his thoughts very, well, thought provoking. A good teacher helps a student learn to think. Darse would teach someone how to think.

2. Darse is an INTP, as am I. INTPs are usually accepting of spirited discussion and far less likely than the rest of the population to take personally pointed debate.

3. I have a natrual inclination for aggressive play. Aggressive poker seems to be Darse's preference.

4. Darse like lemurs. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 12:42 am    Post subject: Re: Fantasy Pro Tuition Reply with quote

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Barry sez: Limit is a game of showdown ...


Keep in mind that Barry plays against a fairly small number of very high stakes players, and he plays a highly mathematical style. In his games, the opponents probably bluff (eg. betting a broken draw) often enough to warrant almost always calling the last bet (given that he has gotten to that stage). I usually play the same way, sometimes to my detriment (because some opponents seldom bluff). I might be able squeeze out some more EV by not calling so liberally; but if I have a big edge anyway, I generally don't want to give opponents a reason to start playing trickier.

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