rush poker on FT ...

[Galak]

... weird, but fun.

edit: since I'm playing only play money, I can't say anything about the quality of the game, but I noticed that you're able to 4-tableing in the same players pool & rat-holing all the time. Real Money players don't need 16-tableing anymore, FTP and/or rakeback are easy to earn ... FT takes tons of rakes from it.

IMHO FT simply re-invented online poker.
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Josef

If it wasn't for bad luck, I wouldn't have no luck at all. (A. King)

[WantonSoup]

It's awesome, played a few hands against Andy Bloch and Phil Gordon at the .10/.25 tables. And holy cow is it a rush. They aren't kidding that action junkies are going to be hooked in no time.

Tight aggressive poker is a safe way of playing these, you'll fly through tables. I think I played 300 hands in less than a half hour, so it goes by FAST.

Love it, but only for short bursts, I prefer playing normal tables and tournaments.

But I'd say try it out, it's a lot of fun for something new
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[Forrest Gump]

I'm not sure TAG is the best approach - I clocked up a few hundred hands at full ring 'rush' 10NL and my thoughts are:
- Steal dead money like nothing else*. Raise any two in late position, always raise an uncontested SB vs BB and always c-bet.
- Double-ups and big pots seem to be rarer. There's more to be gained from grinding smaller pots than waiting for a big allin to eventuate.
- For the most part there are no reads so its very math oriented. When I'm in a hand I'm thinking very general pot/implied odds and not hand ranges.
- Beware the big stacks, often they're the better players. The guys sitting on the lesser stacks are typically the targets. Any player worth their salt will top up to a full stack or multi-table a short-stack.
- Open up your 3-betting range preflop. I very, very rarely 3-bet in standard FR but I've found it worthwhile 3-betting the bigger stacks that open in the cutoff or button.
- Because you're flying through so many hands, be aware of the frustration when card dead or when taking a few beats. The bad times are shorter and sharper.

IMO, it's very juicy and well worth playing, as well as being a welcome change from grinding full ring cash.




FG

* This seems to be a very different beast to full ring micro. In a standard micro game, the bad players without discipline get bored and don't like to fold. In 'Rush' poker, the bad players snap fold their bad hands because they know they can get another in a second. Therefore, there's all sorts of dead money to collect in this version.

[Forrest Gump]

[WantonSoup]

I don't disagree with you FG, my post was based off of one session. After putting in 5400 hands now, I'm leaning more in agreement with your observations.

IMO, these things are free money right now, all the fish are floating around in these. The only hands I actually have to play are when someone has a pair and won't let go, or the odd hand where you'll come up against trips against trips.

I'm starting to get hooked on these, I've won more since these came out than I have in 3 months of grinding .01/.02NL. Up 35 bucks, wheeee!
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[bastin]

My experience in two small sessions (500 hands so far) has been some what of an either/or situation. First of all, if I'm going to come in at all, I generally raise 3.5 X BB (pot) or, if someone has limped and I have AK or better, raise the pot. Most times it is folded around; however, the bet or raise does not necessarily guarantee folds, especially when in early position. I imagine this is to be expected, yet I remain surprised that I will get 3 or 4 callers often enough to mention it here. If I continue with the aggression and the hand still goes to showdown, it typically means I'm looking at a set or an overpair.

While I have done well with KK and AA, I have done better with the straight and flush draws. This might be because most folks are set mining.

As for the "rush' aspect of this game format, I have to liken it to HU with the bots. A lot gets done in a little time. The difference s that I look at my cards, then look at my position. If those two factors say "play," I do. Quick, simple decisions, and I imagine, most players are playing a similar strategy. However, if I get a chance to limp from LP with some sort of marginal drawing hand, I'll take it. The same hands in EP go into the muck without a second thought and hit "Quick Fold."

Still, in a hour or less, I'm burned out. And even though both sessions have been rewarding, I outa there. The downside is that any game after Rush seems like watching the paint dry so I play less poker overall.

"There's a hole in Daddy's arm where all the money goes." - John Prine

It's good to set limits.
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[Akileos]

This Rush Poker thing here sounds mighty tempting, mighty tempting. Yes, sir.

If I didn't have a ton of work to contend with I might just mosey over there to that Rush Poker and get me a taste of the feast.

Have fun gents.

All the microstakes regs in twoplustwo are giddy and giggly over rush poker. Like watching junkies take hits of a potent mix of cocaine, qualudes, salvia, marihuana and crystal meth. Hmm. Maybe not that strong it sounds like fun.
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[Forrest Gump]

Some little tips I've found:
- Changing the Rush poker animation from 'slide' to 'fade' seems to be a lot easier on the eyes. The constant sliding from right to left seems to tilt me after a while.
- To hang around in a hand after folding (if you want to see the outcome for your notes on opponents) click sit out next hand or let the timer run out. You grey out and see the end of the hand.
- You seem the get a whole lot more respect if you've built a decent stack. I find myself opening a lot more liberally (in position) once I'm up a buy-in.


FG

[Akileos]

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- You seem the get a whole lot more respect if you've built a decent stack. I find myself opening a lot more liberally (in position) once I'm up a buy-in.


FG[/quote]

That is so true everywhere.
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[Galak]

http://taopoker.blogspot.com/2010_01_01_archive.html#6537908500502871092

... I guess I'll stick to cigarettes and beer.
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Josef

If it wasn't for bad luck, I wouldn't have no luck at all. (A. King)

[Forrest Gump]

IMO.

Steal. Fold. Steal. Fold. Steal. Fold. Steal. Fold. Steal. Fold. Double through a donk. Steal. Fold. Steal. Fold. Steal. Fold. Steal. Fold. Double through a donk.

I have been running hot though.



FG

[Akileos]

[Galak]

[Loki9]

Better late than never! I just started playing Rush Poker on FTP and I must say that I like it.

I like playing deep. After a couple of hours, I've often built a stack up several hundred big blinds, just like when I multi-table regular games only there the money is spread out over 4-6 tables. With it all in one stack you can do some serious damage and there is more poker to be played on the later streets. Many players have little to no experience with more than 100bb on the table and they will make some huge mistakes.

Rush is where the fishies are. I tried playing the regular 6max tables at FTP and at least right now, they are much tougher than on PokerStars. Few fish there, it seems, because the fish are all playing Rush.

It's easier for me to take breaks from playing. In regular games I often don't because I don't want to lose position on a fish, table dynamics, images, etc. In Rush, no big deal, just sit out, I miss nothing.

[beermantm]

I like it a lot and will have to consider putting some dough on tilt. To bad they will not let me get rakeback. I could make a mint just off rake in these games.
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[Loki9]

[pokergirl]

How did you do that, Loki? Did you have a pre-existing account? Every time I try they deny!
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[Loki9]

Yes, it was for my existing account.

I emailed FullTilt and asked for rakeback. They denied me. I emailed them again maybe a year later. They said contact RakeBackPros, so I did. I heard nothing for about 6 months (can't remember how long really), then last week they emailed me saying I was good to go.

[Forrest Gump]

You need to hassle them and be clear you won't be playing on the site without a rake-back deal. Which is basically the case because it's very, very hard the beat the rake without it.



FG